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July 17th, 2008
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Once again looking for some help
I'm working on a song and I want some opinions. What do you think is wrong with this country?

Here are the ground rules.
1 - I want to hear from my friends on the right as well as my friends on the left.
2 - If someone says something that you don't agree with ... tough. This thread is a place for someone's opinion, not a discussion, not an argument. Responses to other people's comments here are not allowed, not even from me.
3 - If you post in this thread, read everyone else's comments, and try to give them all credit.

I want to make this song not just from my point of view. I'm trying to make it something bigger. Now admittedly my politics are quite left of center, so I can't help but have that point of view in there somewhere, but I want more to this song. It may be more than I can manage, but I want to try.

Oh, and if you are uncomfortable posting here but still want to contribute, email me at ericcoleman at gmail dot com.

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From:bammba_m
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC)
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free speach is what's wrong with this country.

if we didn't have to worry about what we say, or what someone else will think, or how we're going to be offended today, i think we'd all live a lot better.

so. either do away with it, or give it full reign.
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From:jrittenhouse
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)

Short Attention Span Theater:

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...or low information voters. People get the idea that they can't get their heads around anything of significance in regard to What's Going On and what the issues (and their possible solutions) are. They just fix on something shiny, like the presence/non-presence of a flag pin, and go with that.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/9075/storyhu7.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_the_Matter_with_Kansas
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From:blur01
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:21 pm (UTC)
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Fear.

I am currently more afraid of my government than I am of "them".
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From:pheltzer
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
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Two Party Politics. The entire political spectrum can't be summed up in either Black or White, Yes or No. I wish we had multiple viable political parties to make up Congress so they'd have to build coalition governments as it were to get things done. Much like the parliaments/congresses/legislatures of other "Democratic" countries, people have to work together to get things done and often find an acceptable middle ground in the process.
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From:rsmit212
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:29 pm (UTC)
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Greed. Screw the human race for a buck.

Fear. Screw the human race because of what I'm afraid you might do.

No responsibility. What? It's not *my* fault. Your window sliced open my arm when I broke it! Pay me!

Busy bodies. You're doin' stuff I don't like behind those doors! I know you are!
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From:polyfrog
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:44 pm (UTC)
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Get Rich Quick.

At all levels of society. On both sides of the aisle, no matter which aisle you're looking at. Both metaphorical and literal. Everyone is looking for the magic scheme to make it all better, instead of trying to find a long-term plan for long-term success.
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From:prettymuchpeggy
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
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We have forgotten if we don't have employed people in the country there isn't anybody to buy the things we're selling.

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From:alymid
Date:July 17th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
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1) People have lost the sense that they can affect change and that they are part of the active running of the country.

2) The people with power don't keep the best interests of ALL the people in mind when they influence or affect policy changes.

I know these are very general, but I think they are sort of the rotted roots of a lot of our problems.
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From:stephanieb
Date:July 17th, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
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Religion matters more than human beings to some people.
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From:controuble
Date:July 17th, 2008 09:02 pm (UTC)
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Seems like everyone wants RIGHTS, but nobody wants RESPONSIBILITY
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From:gamerchick
Date:July 17th, 2008 09:03 pm (UTC)
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Religious fundamentalism. Specifically, Dominionist Christianity (which is scary shit - dark_christian for info) and widespread belief in the Rapture. So many social ills trace directly back to the idea that, "well, Jesus is coming to take us away soon, so we don't have to care for the environment, invest in education and our children, help the poor, etc. because Jesus will do that for us really soon." At its worst, this thinking encourages strife in the Middle East, war, famine, etc. because all of these things are signs that Jesus is returning.
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From:fredhuggins
Date:July 17th, 2008 09:07 pm (UTC)
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What's wrong with this country is, there's too many people who like try to tell YOU what you can and can't do with your life. Militant people who impose their wills upon whomever they can - sons, daughters, students, and anyone with a weak enough will of their own. They exist at all levels of government and outside the government, from the lawmen who outlaw natural plants, to the mother who drags her children to church and tells them what they believe. These professional moralists come in all issues - militant vegetarians, militant pro-lifers, militant anti-gays, militant believers of EVERY religion (including atheism), militant environmentalists, militant ANTI-environmentalists, etc. Overgrown whiner-babies who like to grab your God-given freedom like a toy and yell "MINE!" People who absolutely REFUSE to live and let live. Worse yet, some of these folk are actually successful enough to ensnare lesser-willed people into their webs of deceit and pay THEM to do the yelling for them, which leads us to policemen, Bible-thumpers and rock concert security guards who try to tell you not to stand up and mosh. It's a necessary evil of free speech, I'm afraid; fascism seems to be human nature, and if you take it away nationally, it'll show up individually. It's not a UNIQUELY American problem, I admit - but it IS the problem of every nation that tells it's citizens "We're #1." Some people aren't satisfied with merely being THEIR OWN boss.

I don't know the answer, and if I did I wouldn't try to impose it anyway.
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From:billroper
Date:July 17th, 2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
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I'll fire blind and then read the comments.

The absurd polarization of both left and right, resulting in the demonization of the other side in most arguments.

The reluctance of people to credit their opponents with good motives. Yes, there are some genuine crooks out there, but that doesn't necessarily describe all politicians or their supporters. (And I do have a serious problem with people with a sense of entitlement.)

The refusal to give an inch, because of the fear that someone will take a mile.

The fact that sometimes when you do give an inch, some damn fool goes and tries to grab a mile, giving credence to the previous statement.

That compromise is a dirty word.

And when your song is done, if you want to read a set of lyrics, go here.
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From:rose1thorn
Date:July 17th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
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The pathological need to be right has replaced honest debate.
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From:barondave
Date:July 17th, 2008 09:18 pm (UTC)

Just one for now

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This country has always had (by my estimation) about 15% of the population who were certifiably insane. These are the people who think the Bible justified slavery and who now refuse to admit that G-d created evolution. Since Reagan's flip flop on deficit spending and the conservative assault on reason to justify his presidency, that percentage of insane people crept up to about 25%. Roughly the percent of people who still think, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that W is doing a good job as president.

To a great extent, we're not arguing policy, we're arguing facts. This is why politics has become so polarized. It's one thing to spin the facts, it's quite another to just make stuff up and pretend it's true. Politics has always been about perception and not necessarily about the truth, but it's been much worse of recent years.
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